Words of Truth - II

Message: 70954
From: Ernest Moyer
Subject: A Question for the Group
Date: Tue, May 24, 2005, 6:03 AM
Topic: General
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I want to thank everyone who responded to my question.

A more careful analysis may reveal what is being said here:

Our Father did indeed speak through Moses, Elijah, Isaiah, Amos, and Hosea, but he did not cease to minister words of truth to the world when these prophets of old made an end of their utterances. My Father is no respecter of races or generations in that the word of truth is vouchsafed one age and withheld from another. Commit not the folly of calling that divine which is wholly human, and fail not to discern the words of truth which come not through the traditional oracles of supposed inspiration.

1. Our Father did indeed speak through Moses, Elijah, Isaiah, Amos, and Hosea.

I, for one, want to know what our Father spoke through the prophets of old. What did he have to say? This is more than mere curiosity. Perhaps he said things that had repercussions through many generations. Perhaps he said things that would affect me.

2. He did not cease to minister words of truth to the world when these prophets of old made an end of their utterances.

I note that the word "prophets" is used. In the old sense, and in the sense of the Urantia Papers, prophets meant men who foretold the future. They did not merely limit themselves to a moral of spiritual portrayal of their day and generation.

Then we ask how far into the future? Ten years? A hundred years? A thousand? Or perhaps more.

How did they know about the future? Did they devise scenarios out of their own purely human, unaided, minds? Or did the Divine Spirit lead them to their utterances? Or perhaps Melchizedek came down here and collaborated with them about what they should say about the future. The Urantia Papers explicitly say that he did so.

But how did HE know the future? Is he a non-time being, who not only can project precisely into the future, but ACTUALLY KNOWS the future?

If you have doubts about this you should read Papers 115 to 118.

What other words of truth did God offer later on, when these prophets of old stopped talking and writing? How about John's Great Revelation. If I understand correctly, that Book carried great truths. Some of those truths might still be there, even though portions of it were corrupted. Has anyone looked?

How about the Book of Enoch, that Jesus studied over and over again? If Jesus devoted so much time to that Great Describer of heavenly realms, and that amazing prophet, would not any of us be curious as to what he had to say?

We know that great words of truth came from Jesus. But does this passage mean to imply that? Jesus was God talking, not merely other human beings.

3. My Father is no respecter of races or generations in that the word of truth is vouchsafed one age and withheld from another.

If words of truth come today, how would we judge their existence, or their value? God does not hold truth to one generation, and deprive another of it. Or does this simply mean that the truths spoken by the prophets of old still hold for us? Isn't it curious that the words of the prophets of old were preserved, in spite of the corrupted context in which they traveled? God did not vouchsafe those words of truth for the people of old, and then withhold the truth from us.

4. Commit not the folly of calling that divine which is wholly human.

Well, I think we all got that one under our belt. We think that the prophets of old were wholly human and reject the possibility that they might speak words of truth to future generations. Aye, there's the rub.

5. Fail not to discern the words of truth which come not through the traditional oracles of supposed inspiration.

If I were to discern the words of truth which came through the traditional oracles of supposed inspiration what would I look for? I can guess that "supposed inspiration" means exactly that, "supposed." Or does the "supposed inspiration" refer to the way the generations have looked upon those men of old. Perhaps they were not "supposed" but were actually real, not inspired, but through dictation from Melchizedek. The Urantia Papers explicitly say that he did so. If I were to fail to discern the words of truth which came through the traditional oracles of supposed inspiration would I fail to discover God's great truths?

Or perhaps we should discern the words of truth which came some other way. Of course the context speaks to the prophets of old so I would be suspicious of such an understanding of this passage.

Or perhaps the Revelators put the extra "not" in there to test the spiritual discernment of us all. Do we have the spiritual discernment to recognize the great truths contained in those prophets of old?

Jesus and Ganid selected great truths from the Hindu writings. Remember, Jesus is here doing the selecting, so I probably am on safe ground to conclude that his selections contain truth.

Page 1449: The God of providence is our Father. God is truth. And it is the desire of God that his creatures should understand him--come fully to know the truth. Truth is eternal; it sustains the universe.

Well, you see, our Father is a God of providence. He plans and rules the universe. He knows how it will unfold in all future time. He is truth. If we are to be like him we must come fully to know the truth. Truth is eternal. It is not an ephemeral or transient condition that flies away with the generations. Truth is what sustains the universe. The prophets of old did not reveal truth that it should apply only to their generation. They revealed truth that would gather value with the passing millennia.

Ernest