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From: "Ernest P. Moyer" <epmoyer@netrax.net> Subject: Judy's "Dream" Experiences Judy Tuttle <lotus144@USA.NET> This is in response to your two posts: Just Like the Earth Knows It Shall Rain Tomorrow... Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:42:12 -0800 and Scenario #2 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 23:20:37 -0800 For book-keeping purpose I shall reproduce your two posts. These certainly were profound experiences, of such personal nature I am surprised that you dared to share them with us. Obviously, you must trust us, and wish to extend a hand in mutual sharing. I greatly respect you for that. I also greatly respect you for contributing to our understanding. My visions are now more ennobled by your experience. I find it simply amazing how things are unfolding. If I have it correctly: "Ubi caritas est vera, Deus ibi est." (Where affection is true, God is there.) I will offer my thoughts. I know that these experiences are very intimate, but in sharing with us, you helped all of us to understand. Therefore, I hope you will bear with me in my attempt to interpret the symbolic nature of your "dreams." Apparent symbolisms are mixed. I could say the stone slab was an examination table on board a seraphic craft. "Just finished" was the completion of their exam. The clipped lock of hair (or clipped finger nails) has been reported often. (Used for genetic studies. Hair has been preserved for many thousands of years in mummified burials around our planet.) The sores and burns may have been your mental transposition of examination marks. The "high priest," taller than the others, could have been a supervisory entity. I would understand the rituals as a dedication ceremony, even though highly symbolic. The soothing balm reflects the oil used in Old Testament times for dedication, and still practiced by the royalties of Europe when they crown their kings and queens. The immersion may have been an actual baptism, again representing your dedication. I come now to an element which carries great significance for me. You spoke about being nailed to a cross. I know that crucifixions will take place. I do not know how widespread they will be. I had expected that there would be only one unique crucifixion, (see Rev 11:8), but your "communication" strongly suggests that such execution techniques may be more general. Are any of us prepared to experience the agony Jesus experienced? If he led the way, and was the example, can we offer less? Have you considered what an honor it would be to suffer the "sufferings of Christ" in our dedication to his call? You said: >I led them in song and a banquet was prepared. A >woman commented that this was, indeed a most unusual >ceremony. She, as well as the others had felt His >presence. I don't know if you are aware of it but Moses and seventy of the elders of Israel were taken on board a seraphic transport where they had a banquet with "the God of Israel." See Exodus 24:9-11. Adamski also reported being entertained in a banquet on board a seraphic transport at the termination of his "contact" episodes. Adamski discussed the feelings they all experienced about the presence of God, and now it affected each of them. See my web site where I compare these experiences. I believe you also went through such an experience, but buried in your mind, and vented through your powerful "dream" episodes. You had said to them: >If a butterfly should alight upon the branch of a willow, I >don't know what that means." I would suggest that you consider the emergence of the pupa from the cocoon. We are now the pupa. The cocoon is the protective covering which has held us all in safety until the time of release. The cocoon is just now beginning to open. Do you remember where we illustrated the highly suggestive symbolism they use. They asked Betty Andreasson, "Do you have knowledge tried by fire?" That is a question which applies to all of us. Or, as the Revelators said to Sadler, (to paraphrase), "Are we ready for the trials and heartaches attendant upon a new Revelation." The butterflies are about to alight on the branches. The torn bit of silver paper with your birth date may have been their token of appreciation. I shall not now discuss the second scenario. It seems to be a reinforcement for you. I do know the serious problem of living in two worlds. Do you recall: p.1838 Forewarn all believers regarding the fringe of conflict which must be traversed by all who pass from the life as it is lived in the flesh to the higher life as it is lived in the spirit. To those who live quite wholly within either realm, there is little conflict or confusion, but all are doomed to experience more or less uncertainty during the times of transition between the two levels of living. In entering the kingdom, you cannot escape its responsibilities or avoid its obligations. But remember the gospel yoke is easy and the burden of truth is light. You can see that we have an obligation, enlightened by our personal experiences: "Forewarn all believers regarding the fringe of conflict . . ." Or: "Religious perplexities are inevitable; there can be no growth without psychic conflict and spiritual agitation." This element will be a serious factor in our service to our brothers and sisters in the world. Or: "The progression of religious growth leads from stagnation through conflict to co-ordination, from insecurity to undoubting faith, from confusion of cosmic consciousness to unification of personality, from the temporal objective to the eternal, from the bondage of fear to the liberty of divine sonship." God bless you, Judy. Ernest
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